51 bus: Crookes councillors and First/SYPTE meeting report

New timetables for the 51 bus start today
Our local councillors have met with First and SYPTE to discuss the 51 bus

Our three councillors, Sylvia Anginotti, Rob Frost and Geoff Smith, have recently met with First and South Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive (SYPTE) to discuss the 51 bus route.

A report from the meeting, written by the councillors, is below.

If you have comments regarding this then the best way to get in touch with them directly is via the contact details on the Sheffield city council website.


The three Crookes councillors (Sylvia Anginotti, Rob Frost and Geoff Smith) have been made aware by individuals and through the Crosspool Forum of dissatisfaction with the 51 bus. In particular with the failure of buses to run at the published times.

We were going to have a meeting with First and South Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive (SYPTE) in January but unfortunately the bad weather forced a postponement and we were not able to meet until March.

You will remember that we were promised an improved service when the Bus Partnership arrangements started at the end of October 2012. This was going to be achieved in two ways; an additional bus on the route and a change of route to avoid Broad Lane.

The additional bus was put on but the change of route didn’t happen. This was because of the number of people who protested that they would not be able to get to the NHS walk in service.

SYPTE figures for complaints show a continued high level of complaints up to January of this year and then a falling off. This could be for either of two reasons; people have become fed up with complaining or there has been some improvement in the service.

SYPTE’s own figures for punctuality at stops on the route show an improvement from 72% punctuality pre-October 2012 rising to 84% recently. This is against a target of 95%. So even by their own figures there is still some way to go.

First admit that punctuality is still not good enough. They said that double deckers were part of the problem and that from early July they will be replaced by brand new single deckers which along with ticket issue speeding up should speed up overall loading times.

They are also putting an additional bus on the route on Saturdays from the end of April and making minor timetable changes. They gave us a list of traffic hotspots on the route which cause problems and we will be taking these up with the Council.

Also they warned that the service could be affected by planned roadworks across the city.

We will continue to have meetings with First and SYPTE. We will welcome your views and experience at the next meeting of the Crosspool Forum and please keep on complaining to SYPTE if you have problems with the 51.

Sylvia Anginotti, Rob Frost and Geoff Smith
April 2013

Poll: would you like additional recycling facilities for plastics in Crosspool?

Plastics recycling bin
Would you like additional recycling facilities for plastics in Crosspool?

With the current system, the only plastics that you can recycle in Crosspool are plastic bottles. This can be done via your blue box/blue bin.

If you want to recycle other types plastic then the nearest sites are a drive away on Old Fulwood Road in Fulwood and in the University of Sheffield’s Endcliffe Crescent Flats complex.

Crosspool Forum is exploring the suggestion of having a plastics recycling bin in Crosspool. If the idea is popular then this is something we’ll raise with our local councillors.

Please can you take a minute to vote using the poll below to help gauge interest in a plastics recycling bin for Crosspool?

First Crosspool streets set to be resurfaced

Work to improve the roads, pavements and streetlights of Sheffield is due to start in Crosspool soon as part of the Streets Ahead project.

You can expect to see resurfaced roads and pavements plus the new, brighter streetlights installed in the Tapton Hill area over the next five months.

This online map allows you to search by postcode to find an approximate date for when the work is scheduled to take place on your street.

Streets Ahead project in Crosspool: roadshow and schedule

The roads, pavements and streetlights of Sheffield are due to be upgraded as part of the Streets Ahead project over the next few years.

You can find out more about Streets Ahead in Crosspool, including what will change and timescales at a roadshow on 13 February at Wesley Hall in Crookes (S10 1UD) – details below.

Work around Crosspool is scheduled to begin in April starting in the Tapton Hill area.

This online map allows you to search by postcode to find an approximate date for when the work will take place on your street.

Streets Ahead roadshow
Streets Ahead roadshow

Your views wanted on the future of our Community Assemblies – deadline Monday

The council is consulting on the future of Community Assemblies. Four main proposals are on the table in response to cuts in government funding and a reduction in services.

Crosspool is part of South West Community Assembly. Community Assemblies currently help decide how services in Sheffield are delivered. The idea is that many decisions that were made in the town hall – including how to spend a Community Assembly budget – are now made within communities via assemblies.

The deadline for responding to the proposals with your comments is tomorrow, Monday 28 January 2013.

Read more about the proposals and fill in the online feedback form.

You can also telephone 0114 273 5299 to give your opinion, or complete a questionnaire over the phone with a member of staff.

Lydgate reservoir ‘no longer available’ for housing

A confidential report leaked to The Star has revealed that Lydgate reservoir is no longer being considered by Yorkshire Water as a site for housing.

Although 900 new homes are planned for other locations, The Star report confirms:

Three proposed sites, two in Crookes and one in Tinsley, have been withdrawn, and three others are to have fewer homes than suggested.

Hadfield and Lydgate reservoirs in Crookes, where 60 homes were proposed, are no longer available – Yorkshire Water wants to keep them in use.

Read the full report on The Star website

Do the electronic speed signs on Manchester Road really work?

Manchester Road speed signs return
Manchester Road SIDs

Drivers on the bottom end of Manchester Road will have noticed the electronic speed indication displays (SIDs) return last month. We got in touch the council to find out what data about traffic speeds the SIDs have collected.

The speed limit for this stretch of road is 30mph. The idea is that the SIDs slow cars down by making drivers aware when they are driving at unsafe speeds.

The data below from previous periods when SIDs have been installed on Manchester Road shows a reduction in average speed when they are present:

Period Average vehicle speed into town Average vehicle speed away from town
No SIDs on site 34mph 31mph
February 2011 31mph 29mph
July 2010 31mph 27mph

The SIDs on Manchester Road will be there for an eight-week period before they are rotated to another site by the Central Community Assembly.

Electronic speed signs return to Manchester Road

Last week the speed indication displays returned to Manchester Road.

As well as showing drivers how fast they are going, the signs display a happy face for vehicles travelling under the speed limit and a sad face for those exceeding it.

The idea is that they slow cars down by making drivers aware when they are driving at unsafe speeds. The speed limit for this stretch of road is 30mph.

Speed indication displays were installed in a similar locations on Manchester Road in July 2010 and January 2011.

Background information about Manchester Road speed signs

Manchester Road speed signs return
The electronic speed signs on Manchester Road have returned